Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc Path: netnews.CC.Lehigh.EDU!netnews.upenn.edu!msunews!uwm.edu!psuvax1!news.ecn.bgu.edu!siemens!princeton!torroja.Princeton.EDU!hariharn From: hariharn@torroja.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) Subject: RJGK # 16 [MANNA DEY] .... results.......... !! Message-ID: <1994Dec22.034026.17971@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: torroja.princeton.edu Reply-To: hariharn@torroja.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) Organization: Princeton University Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 03:40:26 GMT Lines: 454 'Rmim' - Jhim Geeton Ki - #16 - Results! ---------------------------------------- Hi all! The response to the quiz was great. Firstly I wish to apologize for mistakes I made with clue # 15 ... and all the confusion created. Also Ashish Bokil and Mahesh Chaubal pointed out several other mistakes. I did not send in corrections 'cause some enthu early birds had already turned in their "exam answers" :-) These corrections and other masala are along with the answers. Any way .. enuf bs .. let's get to the details. The participants : 1. BISMIL@news2.delphi.com 2. prakash@romlus.enet.dec.com 3. Sunita Agarwal 4. Mani. UpadhyayaA 5. Sangeeta Thakur 6. "Sangam" [Ajit Rao + Anand K + Rekha R + Anil Ubale] oh boy ! 7. Ambrish Sundaram 8. Samiuddin Mohammed 9. Seema Verma + Seema's mother 10. Radhika and Janhavi 11. vish krishnan 12. Lalitha Balasubramaniam 13. Renu, Sujata and Samir at Madison 14. Ashish Bokil 15. Parimal R. Zaveri 16. Anup Pandey 17. Neeraj Malhotra 18. Medha & Dhaval Dalal 19. Pavan Kumar Desikan 20. Nuts 21. Ravi Rai + Bhuvna Ayyagari 22. Prince Kohli 23. Anita DhirA 24. Prince Kohli 25. Sudhir Jha 26. Hemlata + Vinay Mishra 27. Preetham Gopalaswamy 28. Sandeep Joshi ................................................................................ The answers ... I have included some interesting partcipant comments at the appropriate places. I conveniently included the winner's answers (almost) directly. 1. Pankh hain komal aankhen dhundhli Jaanaa hai saagar paar Jaanaa hai saagar paar Abh tu hi ise samjhaa Abh tu hi ise samjhaa Raah bhoole the kahaan se hum One of many Shankar-Jaikishan-Manna gems. Song: Tu Pyaar Ka Saagar Hai Movie: Seema Stars: Balraj Sahni, Nutan, Shubha Khotay Music: Shankar Jaikishan Sami HAD to write "one of the few (gems)" with his answer... Sami take notice that this quiz was tailor-made for you :-) 13 out of the 25 songs are by Shankar-Jaikishan. Actually I just realized this interesting stat. 2. Jeevan kahin bhee taharta nahin hai Aandhi se toofan se dartha nahi hai Nav tho kya baha jaye kinara Badi hee tez samaya ki hai dhaara Enthu-pumping song from a Rajesh Khanna classic. Ashish writes "Instead of giving away the song .. right now you could just separate out the lines and term the set of last two lines as second clue" Maloom nahi Ashish .. apunko thoda bouncer gaya .. PLUS remember I am not very good at fractions :-) Song: O Nadiya Chaley Chaley Re Dhaara... Tujh Ko Chalna Hoga Movie: Safar Stars: Rajesh Khanna, Sharmila, Feroze Khan Music: Kalyanji Anandji 3. Yaad karon to yaad na aye Muratiyan yen kaisi Pagal manwa sooch mein dooba Sapnon ka jan jaal liye Semiclassical gem with Madan Mohan (Rag: Raageshree). Song: Kaun Aaya Mere Man Ke Dwaarey Movie: Dekh Kabira Roya Stars: Anoop Kumar, Daljit, Shubha Khotay etc Music: Madan Mohan 4. Hoyee... Lal chunaria chaal nirali Sar pe jhoomar kaan mein baali Haat mein chudiyan motiyon wali (key line follows) This is fun song... duet with Lata. Song: Jhoomta Mausam, Mast Mahina.....Ya'llah Ya'llah Dil Le Gayee Movie: Ujaala Stars: Shammi Kapoor, Mala Sinha, Raj Kumar, Kumkum Music: Shankar Jaikishan 5. Oh.. maine kya bura kiya hai Kya bura kiya hai Dil dekar hi dil le liya hai Title song stolen twice title = (chori)*2 Song: Jahaan Main Jaati Hoon Wahin Chaley Aate Ho.. Movie: Chori Chori Stars: Raj Kapoor, Nargis, Johny Walker Music: Shankar Jaikishan 6. Dono jahan mujhse roote Dono jahan mujhse roote Tere bina ye geet bhee jhoote Tere bina ye geet bhee jhoote (key line follows) This movie is the limit. WRONG CLUE !!!!! I dunno ... for some reason I was confusing this song with Tu pyaar ka saagar hai (from Seema) ... sorry folks mishteeeek... Song: Sur Naa Sajey, Kya Gaaoon Main Movie: Basant Bahaar Stars: Bharat Bhooshan, Nimmi Music: Shankar Jaikishan 7. Koi kahe lo saavan aaya aaaa... Koi kahe lo saavan aaya Aaaayee kaali badariya aaaaaa.... Movie : known but not known (arghhh.. lousy clues !!) [Jane Anjaane] Song: Chhum Chhum Baaje Re Paayaliya Movie: Jaane Anjaane Stars: Shammi Kapoor, Leena Chandavarkar Music: Shankar Jaikishan Some folks complained about the poor clues ...Hey ! I have spoilt many undergrad-afternoons trying to do the TIMES crosswords... it's time to get some revenge ... just kidding :-) On a more serious side, I was really surprised by the fact that very few people got this right (about 5)... This is a fabulous song.... You should listen to this song if you haven't already done so !!! 8. Tan par jahan gire paapi Vahin daag pad jaye hai Ang-ang mora peer kare Aur karke kahe ... (key line follows) Beat it (not) na maro !!! Song: Phul Gendwa Na Maaro, Lagat Karejwa Mein Chot Movie: Dooj Ka Chaand Stars: Bharat Bhooshan, B. Saroja Devi Music: Roshanlal 9. Naina jhuke jhuke masti mein jhule Aur ute tho jiya thak choole Song: Albeli Naar Preetam Dwaare (good song, one of Manna Dey's best) Movie: Main Shaadi Karne Chalaa Stars: Wonder who Music: Chitragupta 10. Ghayal karte hain khud hee Aur khud hee banate hain dava Ai zahar kabhi amrit hai kabhi Na jaane tore naina hai kya These are the starting lines of the song admiring his lover's beautiful eyes Lot of people confused this with # 11. Song: Tore Naina Rasile Katile Hai Ram Movie: Hamdard Stars: Wonder who Music: Anil Biswas 11. Yahan do roop hai har ek ke Yahan nazaren utana zara dekh ke Jab uski mohabbat mein gum hai tu Vahee soorat nazaar ayegee charsu Song: Tere Naina Talaash Karen Jisey.. Movie: Talaash Stars: Rajendra Kumar, Sharmila Music: S.D. Burman Has someone else noticed that all the other songs in this movie have a definite RDB touch to it. Am I the only one or do other folks agree that apart from this one song the "Talash" tape is really mediocre. 12. Koree chunaria aatmaa mori Mail hai maaya jaal Raj Kapoor in disguise. (Raag bhairavi) Song: Laaga Chunari Mein Daag Movie: Dil Hi To Hai Stars: Raj Kapoor, Nutan Music: Roshanlal Lyrics: Sahir 13. Bheegi havaaon mein Aisi phizaoon mein Hosh mujhe hai kahaan Song: Masti Bhara Hai Samaa, Hum Tum Hain Dono Jawaan Movie: Parvarish Stars: Raj Kapoor, Mehmood, Mala Sinha Music: Dattaram (part of the eternal Shankar Jaikishan gang along with Sebastian and Enoch Daniels) 14. Bheegi bheegi raat mein Dil ka daaman thaam le Khoyi khoyi zindagi Har dam tera naam le Song: Aa Ja Sanam, Madhur Chaandni Mein Hum Movie: Chori Chori Stars: Raj Kapoor, Nargis Music: Shankar Jaikishan 15. Ye koan phool mehaka Ye koan panchi chehaka mehafil mein kaisi kushbhoo udi dil jo mera behaka Lo tan mein jaan ayee Hoton pe taan ayee Some real interesting comments from Ashish Bokil "As far as I can remember, your first clue was correct, the song is from navrang...remember, it is the key to the whole movie, it continues as mehefil mein teri khushboo udi dil yeh mera beheka lo tan mein jaan aayi, hothon pe taan aayi meri chakkori chandani banke pran aayi bichada woh meet aaya jeevan ka geet aaya do aatamaon ke milan ka din puneet aaya surat hai mere sapanon ki tu sohini.. JAMUMA TU HI HAI TU HI MERI MOHINI tere bin phika phika hai dil ka jahaan.. This is when the hero acknowledges that the girl of his dreams whom he wrote about in his songs..is none other than his wife...or the heroiine of the movie...navrang..." Song: Tu Chhupi Hai Kahaan (Asha, Manna Dey) Movie: Navrang Stars: Mahipal, Sandhya Music: Ramchandra Chitalkar 16. Manna Dey : Kaho ki apni preet ka geet na badlega kabhi Lata M : Tum bhee kaho ik raah ka meet na badlega kabhi Song: Pyaar Hua Ikraar Hua Hai (Lata, Manna Dey) Movie: Shree 420 Stars: Raj Kapoor, Nargis Music: Shankar Jaikishan 17. Manna : Aise mein bhee kyon bechain hai dil Jeevan mein na jaane kya hai kami Lata : Kyoon aag see laga ke gumsum hai chandni Sone bhee nahi deta moasam ka ye ishara Song: Ye Raat Bheegi Bheegi (Lata, Manna Dey) Movie: Chori Chori Stars: Raj Kapoor, Nargis Music: Shankar Jaikishan Prakash comments : "Chori chori. Hung up on this movie, aren't you :-)" Yeah .. I really think this is one of the movies that defined that he COULD sing mainstream songs 18. Hai karoon kya soorat aisi Gant ke poore chor ke jaisi Ashish writes "here the word Gant is misleading.. it should be GaanThh it took me a long while to figure out what it meant ... Gaanthh = knot referring to the knot in a GaThhari" Ok Ashish ! Go ahead .. call me a sadist :-) Song: Dil Ka Haal Sune Dil Waala Movie: Shree 420 Stars: Raj Kapoor, Nargis Music: Shankar Jaikishan 19. Pahala ghanta bachpan hai Doosra javvani teesra budaapa Song: Second part (Sad part) of "Ai Bhai, Zara Dekh Ke Chalo" Movie: Mera Naam Joker Stars: Raj Kapoor, Padmini and a cast of thousands Music: Shankar Jaikishan 20. Ghirne se dartha hai kyoon Marne se dartha hai kyoon Tokhar tu jab takh na khayega .. Song: Ai Bhai Zara Dekh Ke Chalo Movie: Mera Naam Joker Stars: Raj Kapoor, Padmini and a cast of thousands Music: Shankar Jaikishan 21. Kashtee koyi doobti pahuncha do kinare pe Tumko apne aap hee kinara mil jayega Song: Tum Besahaara Ho To Kisi Ka Sahaara Bano Movie: Anurodh Stars: Rajesh Khanna, Simple Kapadia Music: Laxmikant Pyarelal 22. Gar khuda mujhse kahe Gar khuda mujhse kahe Kuch maang ai bandhe mere Song: Yaari Hai Imaan Mera Movie: Zanjeer Stars: Amitabh, Joya Bhaduri Music: Kalyanji Anandji 23. Hoga masiha aaaaaa.... Hoga masiha samane tere phir bhee na tu bach payega Tere apnaaaaaaa... Tere apna khoon hee akhir tujhko aag lagayega Song: Kasme Vaade Pyaar Wafaa Sub Baaten Hain Baaton Ka Kya Movie: Upkaar Stars: Manoj Kumar, Asha Parekh, Pran Music: Kalyanji Anandji TB1. Ban mein koyal kook uti hai Sabh ke man mein bhook uti hai Song : Lapak Jhapak tu aa re badarwa Movie : Boot Polish Music Director : Shankar-Jaikishan Lyricist : (not sure) Shailendra TB2. Jisne vish piya bana shankar Jisne vish piya bani mira Song : Kyaa Maar Sakegi Maut Use Movie : Sanyaasi Music Director : Shankar Jaikishen Lyricist : Indeevar Some general comments from Neeraj Malhotra: "First of all, my compliments to you for selecting such wonderful songs for the quiz. This quiz will make any 'GEMS' list. He DID have such a wonderful voice. I say 'DID' because I saw a video of his LIVE concert ( now is there such a thing as a dead concert ? ) and he sounded so flat, I wished he did not spoil his own masterpieces. He is 'Padmshree' and that is the only fact I know about him. Here are my answeres ( at the nth hour because I was hoping to figure out the ones I could not ). By the way did you notice, that you gave away quite a few clues in the Narrative itself " Thanks for the compliments Neeraj .. bahut baar apunko milata nahin .. milta hai tabhi le leneka :-) :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- And now for the much awaited results. The participants in general did REALLY well.. hmmm... I guess the folks who don't do well just don't turn it in .. gotta have a closed room exam one of these days :-) Some chota stats : Lowest score : 11/0 Mean score : 19/0.46428571 (roughly) Highest : 23/0. Here are the top 10 participants and their scores. The first one is out of 23 and the second out of the 2 Tie-Breakers. ................................................................................ 10 "Sangam" [Ajit Rao + Anand K + Rekha R + Anil Ubale] Prakash [17/0] 9. Anup Pandey [17/1] 8. Lalitha Balasubramaniam Sudhir Jha [18/0] Sandeep Joshi Hemlata + Vinay Mishra 7. Medha and Dhawal Dalal [18/1] 6. Madhavi Verma and her daughter :-) Ashish'knows'Bokil [19/1] Mani Upadhyaya Ambrish'#17'Sundaram 5. Radhika and Janhavi [20/0] 4. Renu(not Rushdie), Sujata and Samir Anita Dhir [20/1] 3. Neeraj'tiebreaker'Malhotra [20/2] 2. Sangeeta"early entry"Thakur [21/1] *********** And the winner is : *drumroll* *********** 1. Vish Krishnan [23+0] Congratulations VISH !!!! You are hereby entitled to call yourself the rmim Mannaxpert.... Hey ! Maybe you can help Manna Dey in the elections (I suppose you know that we all are rooting for him to be the next PM). Don't forget to tell him you aced the RJGK on Manna Dey. Aba-da-aba-da-that's-all-folks -- Ramesh Hariharan, Princeton U. Nadiya chale chale re dhara Chanda chale chale re tara Tujhko chalna hoga Tujhko chalna hoga Tujhko chalna hoga