Path: Lehigh.EDU!Lehigh.EDU!ksn2 From: ksn2@Lehigh.EDU (KEDAR S NAPHADE) Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc Subject: ** SOLUTIONS RJGK 19v2.0 *** Date: 16 Mar 1995 20:45:40 GMT Organization: Lehigh University Lines: 309 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ka81k$nna@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ml444r.cc.lehigh.edu ********* Solutions to "Rmim-Jhim Geeton Ki" 19 v2.0 *********** Hello folks, Here are the solutions to RJGK-19. Thank you all for the great response. I would like to thank Bhavin Doshi(bhd2@lehigh.edu) & M. James (jam7@lehigh.edu) for their help in compiling the second version of the quiz. Thanks also to Rajan and Vish Krishnan for their corrections regarding the raags. I tried to acknowledge all your entries .. i hope i did not miss out anyone. some songs and their raags are still open to discussion : aa laut ke aaja mere meet (megh or madhmaadh saarang ? What is the exact difference between the two anyway ? ) (# 2) jaao re jogi tum jaao re (alhaiyya/kamod ??) (# 16) kaun aaya mere man ke dwaare (rageshri / bihaag ?) (# 13) someone commented that tum bin jeevan (# 4) starts of in raag hemant. As i do not know what raag hemant is like I cannot comment on this. I had a couple of requests to provide a description/aaroha-avaroha of the raag, and give the notation for some phrases in the song that were typical to that raag for each song in the quiz. I shall do that after the above songs are resolved, and perhaps do it on a one-song-a-day basis. This is the list of participants in random order : Natarajan Sridhar Samiuddin Mohammed Ravi Srinivas Ajay Nerurkar Neeraj Malhotra + Prince Kohli Meena Sanyal + Ganesh Balasubramanian + Atish Sanyal Preeti Ranjan Panda Biju Parmeshwaran Swapna Gokhale + Indrani Bose Mohanlal Rathore Ambrish Sundaram Nitin Joshi Sanjeev Ramabhadran Lalitha Balasubramanian Pradeep Dubey Ajit Dandekar + Roopa Dhavan Sandeep Joshi Priya K + Kallol M + Angela S Prashant Kulkarni Ramesh Hariharan + Seema Varma + Seema's Mom Srinivas R Kadaba Anup Pandey Pavan Kumar Desikan Preetham Gopalaswamy Krishnan Gopalan Some statistics about the participants : Total no: 25 (1) Number of participants who used the Raag clue in some way : 11 (This includes those who knew the raags + those who used "association" i.e., guessed from other known songs from that raag + those who were + really smart and used the rmim auto-mailer) (2) Number of participants that did not use the raag clues at all : 11 (3) The remaining three : I do not know. Among the 11 participants that shared the first 8 places, 5 were from category (1), four from category (2) and two from category (3) Overall Average : 18.1 Average in Category 1 : 19.7 Average in Category 2 : 17.4 Average in Category 3 : 15 People who knew the raags (or used that information in some clever way) did only slightly better than the others (two more songs out of 24) .. Also this version of the quiz was more difficult than the first version. I think that this differnce would have been even lesser for the first version .. Also among the 11 who *did* use the raag clue in some way, there were at least three who were not very familiar with the raags, but used lists of songs based on classical music compiled previously on rmim/rmic or used the rmim-automailer to gather hints. I think I can safely re-assert here what I said in the introduction to the quiz - Many of us dont know it, but we really *do* like classical music :-) Tie breakers were apparently quite difficult. very few people got them. But there were atleast two correct solutions for each tie breaker. Here are the solutions : 1. bhor bhii aas kii kiran naa laayI ANSWER: Poochho na kaise maine rain bitayee Ahir Bhairav/Manna Dey/SDB/Shailendra/Meri Soorat Teri AaNkheN 2. ek pal hai milanaa ek pal bichha.Danaa duniyaa hai do din kaa melaa ANSWER: Aa laut ke aaha mere meet, tujhe mere geet bulate hain (Megh ? Madhmadh Sarang)/Mukesh/??/??/Rani Roopmati 3. Tootaa huaa dil, nahii hu.n mein terii muhobbat ke kaabil ANSWER: Meri yaad mein tum na aasoon bahana, na dil ko jalaana Jaunpuri/Talat/??/??/?? 4. Kaise dil behele, hasanaa chaahuun, ronaa aaye ANSWER: Tum bin jeevan kaisa jeevan Rageshri/Manna Dey/Madan Mohan/??/Bawarchii 5. Nain bahe re gangaa more taanaa maare chunariyaa ANSWER: Megha chaaye aadhi raat bairan ban gayi nindiyaa PaTadeep/Lata/S.D.Burman/Neeraj/Sharmiilii 6. shabnam bhi roe main voh paasabaan hun aise jahaan se kyon hum dil lagaaye ANSWER: Aasoon bhari hain, yeh jeevan ki rahen, koi unse kaha deh Yaman/Mukesh/Dattaram/??/Parvarish 7. agar dil bhhi hotaa to kyaa baata hoti likhii jaati phir daastaan-e-muhobbat ANSWER: Huzur, is kadar bhi na itare ke chaliye Yaman-KalyaN/Bhupinder+Anwar(??)/??/??/Maasoom 8. kab tak main jiyuungaa yuunnhi khwaabon ke sahaare ANSWER: Bhooli hui yaaden, mujhe itna na satayo, ab chain se rehne do Yaman/Mukesh/??/??/?? 9. sajade tumhaari raaha mein kartii haim kaikashaa.n ANSWER: Chaudavin ka chaand ho, yaa aftaab ho PahaDi/Rafi/??/??/Chaudavin ka chaand 10. lo ab chale aao ke dum ghhuTataa hai jalaa gaye manako ... ANSWER: Chand phir niklaa, magar tum na aayee Shuddha-KalyaN/Lata/SDB/??/Paying Guest 11. saath de to dharama kaa chale to dharama par ANSWER: Humko man ki shakti denaa Kedar(*had* to put this one in :-) /??/Vasant Desai/??/Guddi 12. chalo jaao, hato jaao dil kaa daaman chhoDo ANSWER: Tum to pyaar ho sajana, mujhe tum se pyaara aur na koi Maru-Bihaag/Rafi+Lata/??/??/Sehra 13. ho na kahiin parachaai, jo pardesi ke ghara aayii ANSWER: Kaun aaya mere man ke dware, payal ki jhankaar liye (Rageshri ? Bihag)/Manna Dey/??/Shahryar/Dekh Kabira Roya 14. dard bhharaa ye giit kahaan se in hothho.n pe aaye, door kahiin le jaaye ANSWER: Mere naina saawan bhadoon, phir bhi mera man pyaasa Shivaranjani/Kishore Kumar/RD/Anand Bakshi/Mehboobaa 15. kachche dhhaaage se bandhhaaa chalaa aaye ANSWER: Tere mere beech mein kaisa hai yeh bandhan anjaana Shivaranjani/SPBalsubramaniam + Lata/??/??/Ek Duje Ke liye 16. Gyaan ki to hai siimaa GYaanii gaagar me.n saagar kaa paanii ANSWER: Jaao re jogi tum jaaoo re (Alhaiyya ? Kamod ? Gaud Malhar)/Lata/??/??/Amrapaali 17. gardishe.n hi gardishe.n ab hai mere vaaste ab hai mere vaaste ANSWER: Jhumtee chali hawa, yaad aa gaya koi Sohini/Mukesh/S.N.Tripathi/Shailendra/Sangeet Samraat Tansen 18. But I did find a Hindol : ek dard-bharii aawaaz hun piyaa der na kar aa mil ANSWER: Kahin deep jale kahin dil, jara dekh ke aakar parwane Hindol/Lata/??/??/Bees Saal Baad 19. motii kaa anamolaka hiiraa miTTii me jaa phisalaa ANSWER: Kahan se aaye badra, dultaa jaye kajara Megh/Yesudas+Haimanti Shukla/Rajkamal/Indu Jain/Chashme Baddoor 20. pyaasa hogi nahi.n kyaa yeh poori pyaasaa-pyaasaa gagan pyaasaa-pyaasaa chaman ANSWER: Aadha hain chandrama, raat aadhi Malkauns/Lata+Mahendra Kapoor/??/??/Navrang 21. chhama chhama naache masta jawaani main lehero.n main khhoyaa jaaoo.n ANSWER: Jhanak-jhanak tori baaje payaliya, preet ke geet sunaye payaliya Darbaari/Manna Dey/??/??/?? 22. tuu bhii to taDapaa hogaa man ko banaakar tuufaan ye pyaar kaa man me.n chhupaakar ANSWER: Duniya bananewale kya tere main mein samai Bhairavi/Mukesh/Shankar Jaikishan/Shailendra/Teesri Kasam 23. No dearth whatsoever of bhairavis: vaaden bhhi kiye tuune khhaii thhii kasam merii ANSWER: BhichhaDe hue pardesi, ek baar to aana tu, jab aankh milaye hain Bhairavi/Lata/??/??/Barsaat 24. Another bhairavii, more recent though : aise ko, roke ab koun bhalaa, dil se jo pyaari hai ANSWER: Loote koi man ka nagar, ban ke tera saathi Bhairavi/Lata+Manhar/SDBurman/Majrooh Sultanpuri/Abhimaan TB1. Hain vaheen raahen vaheen duniyaa magar sunsaan hai Tuu nahi to dil ki saari bastiyaan veeraana hain ANSWER: Zindagi Bhar Gham judaai kaa hamein taDapaaegaa Malkauns/Rafi/??/??/Miss Bombay(??) TB2 gayaa mana kaa dhheeraja badhhi bekalii bhhii ANSWER: Yeh kaun aaj aaya savere-savere Jogiya/Punkaj Mullick/??/??/?? And now for the top ten contestants : There is a tie for the 7th place : Samiuddin Mohammed (20+0) (Category 2) Ravi Srinivas (20+0) (Category 2) and for the 6th : Ajay Nerurkar (21+0) (Category 1) Neeraj Malhotra + Prince Kohli (21+0) (Category 1) but these guys got a tiebreaker and sneaked ahead for the 5th place : Meena Sanyal + Ganesh Balasubramanian + Atish Sanyal (21+1) (Category 3) A three way tie for the 4th place : Pradeep Dubey (22+0) (Category 2) Ajit Dandekar + Roopa Dhavan (22+0) (Category 1) Sandeep Joshi (22+0) (Category 1) But we have clear winners for the first three places; kaa.Nsya padak : Priya K + Kallol M + Angela S (23+0) (Category 1) roupya padak : Prashant Kulkarni (24+0) (Category 2) aur pesh hai, bhaaiyon aur beheno.n, is quiz ke suvarNa padak vijete : Ramesh Hariharan + Seema Varma + Seema's Mom (24+1) (Category 1) Thanks again to all of you for the great response. It was fun all the way through ! Regards, Kedar _______________________________________________________________________________ All problems of existence are essentially problems of harmonium.