RMIM Archive Article "217".


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# Subject: Tagore's tunes in Hindi Films
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#		1. Surajit Bose
#		2. Vish Krishnan
#		3. Satish Subramanian
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------------------------------------------------------------------ Hindi film songs and Rabindra Sangeet ------------------------------------------------------------------ Part 1 Author: Surajit Bose I was listening to Talat (and Suraiya--but barely) singing "raahi matwaale, tu chheD ik baar man kaa sitaar" and began wondering about film songs based on Ravindra Sangeet. Off the top of my head I can think of these: song: raahi matvaale, tuu chheD ik baar based on: o re grihabaashi film: Waris singers: Talat, Suraiya (lopsided duet) MD: Anil Biswas song: tere mere milan ki yeh raina based on: jadi taare naai chini go film: Abhimaan singers: Kishore, Lata MD: Sachin Dev Burman song: chhoTisi ik kalii Kili thii ek din baag me.n based on: basante phuul gaa.nthlo aamaar joyer maalaa film: Jurmana singer: Lata MD: Rahul Dev Burman song: nain diiwaane, ek nahi.n maane based on: she diin dujane singer: Suraiya film: Afsar MD: Sachin Dev Burman There surely must be lots more. After all, so many MD's were from the Bengal belt--Hemant Kumar, Kishore Kumar, Salil Choudhury, Timir Baran, etc. Is there a list of such songs extant somewhere in the RMIM archives? Or could other RMIMers help compile such a list? (BTW, transcribing Bengali is hard.....) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hindi film songs and Rabindra Sangeet ------------------------------------------------------------------ Part 2 Author: Vish Krishnan Thanks for starting this series. There was a mention of doing something similar for Kazi Nazrul Islam's influence on Hindi movie music. That may be tougher probably only because his "originals" were not available that much. Until recently that is. Now, there is a Nazrul Geet 4-pack that is totally worthwhile. The star attraction for me there is Sachin Deb Burman's "meghla nishi bhore", made later into "roj akeli aaye". I thought it would have provided a kickoff for such a research effort, but... I have run through the series, and haven't found a match other than "meghla nishi...". So, one goes back to the 3 or 4 known ones (not included in the 4-pack, sadly) like "ghaayal hiraniyaa", "jaane kyaa tune kahi", "main albeli, runjhun runjhun baaje ghoonghar moraa" (BUZDIL), and that is about it. I have always been curious about specific aspects of Anil Biswas's music that may have been Nazrul Geet in origin. No discoveries as yet. In addition to the songs above, let me suggest the following as Rabindra Sangeet transplants into the Hindi medium: . man moraa uDtaa jaaye baadal ke sang door gagan mein, aaj nashe mein, gaata geet milan ke re, rimjhim, rimhim, rimjhim MAA BETA (1964?), Lata, Composer: Hemanta Mukherji from mana mero meghero s(h)ange, uDe chale deeg deeg..... (Hemanta Mukherjee) . moray chanchal naina, madhu ras ke bhare ANGULIMAAL (1960) - Meena Kapoor and chorus, Composer: Anil Biswas from "madhu gandhe bharaa" (I have only heard a Lata-Hemanta version) The Hindi song was never released by EMI as far as I know. It has even been dropped from the movie. Most curiously, Meena Kapoor sounds just like Asha Bhonsle in the 2nd verse. Or IS IT Asha in the 2nd stanza? . meghaa chhaye aadhi raat (not sure about this one) SHARMEELEE (1972?), Lata, Composer: Sachin Deb Burman from don't know the original. . chhoo kar mere man ko, kiyaa toone kyaa ishaara (only the beginning is RS) YAARAANA (1981?) - Kishore, Composer: Rajesh Roshan from "tomaar holo shuru, amaar holo shaara" (I have only heard a Lata-Hemanta version) . kaise koi jiye, zeher hai zindagi (specially the 2nd stanza "taare na jaanein..") BAADBAAN (195x?), Geeta and Hemanta (2 versions), Composer: Timirbaran Bhattacharya from "???" I would also suggest that we not restrict ourselves to the Hindi domain. What about Bengali movies? The numbers are probably significantly higher, but again, I don't believe they are teeming with Rabindra Sangeet adaptions. A good and familiar place to look would of course be Hemanta Mukherjee's movies like MON NIYE (isn't there a lovely Asha-Hemanta duet in it?), SURYATORAN, BAGHINI, MONIHAAR (??) etc. We have talked about Bengali movies and music on RMIM, but only through fleeting references. Perhaps it is time to get organized, and detailed. Music from the New Theatres age should provide a sound beginning. Also, to go after Rabindra Sangeet "originals" (used here as a substitute for the real, real originals), one needs to look at the progatonist giants from the '50s (Hemanta, Suchitra Mitra, Kanika Banerjee, Dwijen Mukherjee, and from recent times, people like Haimanti Shukla. Others?) cheers vish ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hindi film songs and Rabindra Sangeet ------------------------------------------------------------------ Part 3 Author: subraman@cs.umn.edu (Satish Subramanian) Good place to start would be old movies of Pankaj Mullick. He was the pioneer in popularizing Rabindra Sangeet in Hindi films. Note the word used is 'popularize' and not 'plagiarize'. Rabindranath Tagore had himself composed a few songs and shared the credits in some of Pankaj Mullick's movies in late 30s. Most of the others who followed the foot steps of Pankaj Mullick like Hemant Kumar, Anil Biswas, S.D.Burman were greatly influenced by Tagore's compositions and used some of them in their films. Anil Biswas in "raahi matwaale" (Waris) and S.D.Burman in "jaayen to jaayen kahaan" (Taxi Driver) used Talat to sing the borrowed tunes from Rabindra Sangeet. S.D.Burman's earliest hit with Geeta Dutt "mera sundar sapna beet gaya" (Do Bhai) was also a Tagore composition. Hemant Kumar and Manna Dey were also accomplished singers of Rabindra Sangeet. Kishore Kumar, although untrained, was considered an expert in Rabindra Sangeet. Why else would Satyajit Ray make him sing the Tagore songs in "Charulata" (in early sixties)? Rajesh Roshan also made Kishore sing the Tagore tune "chookar mere man ko" from "Yaarana". S.D.Burman's "tere mere milan ki yeh raina" from "Abhimaan" was also by Kishore (and Lata). When Bappi Lahiri made his "chandaa dekhe chandaa" in "Jhoothi" based on the same tune it was Kishore again singing it beautifully with Asha. Another common link between Abhimaan and Jhoothi was the director Hrishikesh Mukherjee. Maybe he had a hand in the choice of the tunes. Kavita Krishnamurthy had trained under the likes of Manna Dey to learn singing including Rabindra Sangeet. So probably R.D.Burman found it appropriate to call her when he used a Rabindra Sangeet tune. The song was the "1942 - A Love Story" hit "pyar hua chupke se ye kya hua chupke se". It also explains the similarity between the lines "kyon naye lag rahe hai ye dharti gagan" and "heera toh pehle hi kisi aur ki ho chuke" (from "panna ki tammana hai ki" in "Heera Panna"). I have no idea about the words of the originals, but I have heard them once. In early 1994, the release of "1942-A Love Story" prompted some Rabindra Sangeet fans to organize a choir to sing all Tagore tunes which were used in films. They were bothered by the fact that the credit for the tunes were going to the wrong people. The choir sang the original and the film song back to back. -- bye satish ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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