Path: Lehigh.EDU!netnews.upenn.edu!news.voicenet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news.umkc.edu!cctr.umkc.edu!rthamma From: rthamma@cctr.umkc.edu (Renu Thamma) Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc Subject: RJGK-25 - Answers and Results! Date: 9 Aug 95 10:45:31 CST Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City Lines: 691 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1995Aug9.104531@cctr.umkc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: axp1.umkc.edu Hi all! The RJGK series have come a long way on this newsgroup. Abhay's comment sums it up best - "This is really a great milestone for RMIM. And we must all thank Sami for starting this quiz. It has gone through different phases, and now it's a mature idea. Says a lot about this small world we have here." The response has been simply overwhelming, and I can only thank all the netters for that. The idea of making the quiz relatively simpler was to pull in the entries of a large number of rmimers who never get to participate cos they lose out to the gurus on the net. There were a total of 47 entries!! involving 69 participants, a record for an RJGK! The participants in no specific order are : 1. S. Jagadish 2. Sridhar Natrajan + Manisha Nigam + Arun Verma 3. Sridhar Dittakavi 4. Pavan Kumar Desikan + U.V. Ravindra 5. Samir Ayachi 6. Avanidhar Subrahmanyam 7. Shashikant Joshi urf Pintu Diwaana 8. Ramki Krishnan + Madhav Rao 9. Renu Sah + Sujata Swaminathan 10. Ikram Ahmed Khan 11. Prince Kohli + Neeraj Malhotra 12. Manish Shah + Sadanand Sahasrabudhe 13. Namrata & Harish Patil with Sharad Chandarana 14. Preetham Gopalaswamy + Sami Mohammed 15. Senthil Kumaran Kandasamy + Ramprasad Venkatraman 16. Abhay Avachat 17. Kalyan Kolachala + Atul 18. Rahul Srivastava 19. Venkat Mantri + Rajesh Kunjithaya 20. Joydeep Bhattacharya 21. Harmesh Kaur & Surjit Singh 22. Praveen Saxena 23. A.L. Sriram 24. Balaji & Malini 25. Parul Agrawal 26. Arunabh Chowdhuri 27. Shailesh Deshpande 28. Chetan Vinchhi 29. Jayashree Shivamoggi - 30. Shoba & Madan Annavarjula 31. Neeraj Deshmukh + Swapna Gokhale + Indrani 32. Mala Acharya 33. Prashant Kulkarni 34. Srinivasan 35. Manaw Modi + Monish Aggarwal 36. Vandana & Mahesh Chaubal 37. Srinath Varadarajan Ekkad 38. Nitin Joshi 39. Lalita B. 40. Ashish Bokil 41. Ajit Dandekar + Roopa Dhawan 42. Pranav Naik + Inspiration (prefers to remain anonymous) 43. Sahadev Komaragiri 44. Sailesh Davuluri 45. Sudesh Amin 46. rtasis@magna.com.au (?) 47. Srinivasaraghavan T. If I have left out someone I am extremely sorry about that. Please do let me know about it rightaway. Sami, thanks to his self imposed vanvaas from rmim, chose to send in a joint entry with Preetham. There should be a rule on rmim that once you acquire 'guru' status, you are forbidden from sending joint entries for quizzes. :) Enough of my complaining, let me get on with the quiz. The answer follows each set of lines, P-stats of which were provided by Preetham, the official P-stats provider of rmim since its initiation. Then come the comments (if any) from the participants and mine too. The overall performance has been really good, with most people scoring above 18 on 24. I dispensed with tie-breakers, so we do have a couple of ties. On with the answers - ============================================================================== 1. General - ye judaai hi, milan hai jo ham ne dekhaa yaadon mein aakar, tum yoonhi gaate rehnaa (the lesser known para of a super popular song by 'the MD everyone loves to hate' like somebody said) Song : Chalte chalte mere yeh geet yaad rakhna, kabhi alvida na kehna Singer : Kishore Kumar Film : Chalte Chalte *ring : Simi, Vikas Anand (?) Music : Bappi Lahiri Lyrics : Amit Khanna Comments: Abhay : That's hardly a good way to start :-( Common Renu, you sure know more songs that can fit in this general category. Did Preetham bribe you to do this ? :-) :-) ============================================================================== 2. General - Jhoom ke jab jab kabhi do dil gaate hain Chaar kadam chaltein hain phir kho jaatein hain (Plagiarism wasn't BL forte alone, as the MD of this song obviously proved, but this was one of his best creations ever and hopefully original too) Song : Kya mausam hai, ae deewane dil, chal kahin door nikal jaayen Singers : Lata Mangeshkar, Kishore Kumar, Mohammad Rafi Film : Doosra Aadmi *ring : Rakhee, Rishi Kapoor, Shashi Kapoor, Neetu Singh, Parikshat Sahni Music : Rajesh Roshan Lyrics : Anand Bakshi (?) Comments: (Renu) : Most people guessed the MD to be Rajesh Roshan but couldn't figure out the actual song. ============================================================================== 3. Rafi - Ai shammaa tu aajaa zaraa chilman se nikalke Hasrat hai ki reh jaoon teri aag mein jalke (Naushad, and Shakeel together with Rafi make this one of the most soulful solos ever) Song : Ae husn zara jaag tujhe ishq jagaaye Singer : Mohammad Rafi Film : Mere Mehboob *ring : Rajendra Kumar, Sadhana, Ameeta Music : Naushad Lyrics : Shakeel Badayuni Comments: Pavan : I rate this song amongst *THE BEST* Rafi solos *EVER*. His voice is *dynamite* -- even the Manna from the Heavens couldn't be sweeter. Get this song and listen to it immediately. Now! GO! (Renu) :After all the KKKlan bashing (not KK bashing) that the Rafians' President Abhay does, I have to mention that he missed the Rafi clue! :) ============================================================================== 4. Kishore - Saare haseen nazaare, sapnon mein kho gaye Sar rakh ke aasmaan pe, parbat bhi so gaye (A double treat - Kishore singing for Kishore's music) Song : Thandi hawa yeh chaaNdni suhaani, ae mere dil suna koi kahaani Singer : Kishore Kumar Film : Jhumroo *ring : Kishore Kumar, Madhubala Music : Kishore Kumar Lyrics : Majrooh Sultanpuri Comments: Abhay :Make it a triple treat, if one is watching the song. Or forget it. It's an infinite treat, when one is watching Madhubala. ============================================================================== 5. Duets - Main thodi der jee to loon Nashe ke ghoonT pee to loon (A Sahir creation, picturized on Dev and his co-star) Song : Abhi na jaao chhod kar ke dil abhi bharaa nahin Singers : Asha Bhonsle, Mohammad Rafi Film : Hum Dono *ring : Dev Anand, Nanda, Sadhana Music : Jaidev Lyrics : Sahir Ludhianvi Comments: Abhay :I have always held the opinion that, if one has a voice like Rafi's, charm like Devsaab's and poetry like Sahir's, then after hearing this song, no woman on earth can say "No" :-) (Renu) :I was particular about having a Jaidev song in the quiz. I got a lot of comments from participants telling me that I should be murdered for not mentioning Jaidev as part of the subclue, 'cos this is more a Jaidev creation than a Sahir creation. Sorry guys, but the only reason I omitted that was because the clue would become too easy! (As if it weren't already!) ============================================================================== 6. Lata - Jab ham na honge tab hamaari Khaak pe tum rukoge chalte chalte Ashkon se bheegi chaandni mein Ik sadaa si sunoge chalte chalte (One of those 'combos' as Sami calls them, with Roshan and Majrooh. Movie stars Garam-Dharam) Song : RaheN na raheN ham mehka karenge, banke kali, banke saba.. Singer : Lata Mangeshkar Film : Mamta *ring : Ashok Kumar, Suchitra Sen, Dharmendra Music : Roshan Lyrics : Majrooh Sultanpuri Comments: (Renu) : This is the voice that I'd like to remember Lata by, not the 'didi tera devar deewana' trite. (Sorry for offending HAHK! fans) ============================================================================== 7. Mukesh - Vo aasmaan jhuk rahaa hai zameen par Ye milan hamne dekhaa yaheen par (A super duper hit movie, with amazing songs, by the MD who long deserves an RJGK credited to him.) Song : Suhaana safar aur yeh mausam haseeN Singer : Mukesh Film : Madhumati *ring : Dilip Kumar, Vyjayantimala, Pran Music : Salil Chowdhury Lyrics : Shailendra ============================================================================== 8. Rahul Dev Burman - Mere jivan ki aasha, padh le mere naino ki bhaasha Mujhe man me basa le, pal pal palkon mein chupa le (If you've seen this movie, it'll take you a split second to know which song this is. If you haven't seen it yet, get it from your 'Neighbor' right now!) Song : Mere bhole baalam/Meri pyaari bindu Singer : Kishore Kumar Film : PaDosan *ring : Sunil Dutt, Kishore Kumar, Saira Banu, Mehmood Music : R. D. Burman Lyrics : Anand Bakshi Comments: (Renu) : I got tons of entries from junta who guessed just about every song in the movie Padosan, except the above one. The most common incorrect answer was 'ik chatur naar badi hoshiyaar' followed by 'mere saamne waali khidki mein'. Like my clue says, if you've seen this movie once you can't forget these lines followed by tu jhatpat aakar chhatpat mere andhe kuen mein deep jalaa ke kar de ujaala, o zara kar de ujaala.. and then Kishore sings that fabulous .. Bindu re... ============================================================================== 9. Gulzar - Paake bhi tumhaari aarzoo ho Shaayad aise zindagi haseen hai (Overlapping a single voice was RD's forte. But he did it the most, with Gulzar's creations. I guess they both gave each other the freedom to experiment.) Song : Katra katra milti hai, katra katra jeene do Singer : Asha Bhonsle Film : Ijaazat *ring : Naseerudin Shah, Rekha, Anuradha Patel Music : R. D. Burman Lyrics : Gulzar Comments: (Renu) :Once again, everyone figured out that this was from Ijaazat, but a lot of people got mixed up about the song itself. 'Chotisi kahaani se' was the most common mistake! ============================================================================== 10. Asha - aapko pyaar meraa yaad jahaan aayegaa koi kaantaa vohi daaman se lipat jaayegaa (An Asha song picturized on another Asha aka Ms. Tanpura) Song : Jaaiye aap kahaaN jaayeNge, yeh nazar laut ke phir aayegi Singer : Asha Bhonsle Film : Mere Sanam *ring : Biswajeet, Asha Parekh, Mumtaz Music : O. P. Nayyar Lyrics : Majrooh Sultanpuri Comments: Ikram :I used to always laugh uproariously when AshaP does the angDayee in this song and her kamar would suddenly be perpendicular to her spine!!! :) Abhay :How conviniently you forget to mention that OP also deserves an RJGK on him ! (Renu): Couldn't agree more with you! Reason for not mentioning OPN in the subclue - same reason why Jaidev was not mentioned for #5 - the clue would become too easy! ============================================================================== 11. Sachin Dev Burman - Chaahe chhup jaa tu ghataaon mein chandaa Dhoondh hi legi yeh chakori re (The name of this movie sounds like our National Song (not anthem) A typppppical SDB tune) Song : Gori gori gaoN ki gori re, kis liye bun rahi dori re Singers : Lata Mangeshkar, Kishore Kumar Film : Yeh GulistaaN Hamaara *ring : Dev Anand, Sharmila Tagore Music : S. D. Burman Lyrics : Majrooh Sultanpuri (?) Comments: (Renu) : I am not quite sure if my clue was incorrect, but a lot of people wrote asking me if this song was from Vande Mataram. I was always under the impression that 'sare jahaan se achchha hindustan hamaara' was our national song. Can someone shed some light on this? Incidentally this proved to be the toughest clue of them all. Special thankoo to Ketan, the SDB guru for helping with the clue, and sacrificing participating in the quiz. :) ============================================================================== 12. Yesudas - palkon ke satrange deepak ban baithe aansoo ki jhaalar (An absolutely adorable movie. Basesar Ram from the TV Serial Hum Log is the music instructor here) Song : KahaaN se aaye badra, dhulta jaaye kajra Singers : Yesudas, Haimanti Shukla Film : Chashm-e-Baddoor *ring : Farooq Sheikh, Deepti Naval Music : Rajkamal Lyrics : Indu Jain ============================================================================== 13. Bhool Bisre Geet - roothi hui yoon na maanegi chhaliyaa charanon mein raadhaa ke, rakh do muraliyaa (A C.Ramachandra tune, for Abhay's sake if I may add.) Song : Na bole na bole na bole re Singer : Lata Mangeshkar Film : Azaad *ring : Dilip Kumar, Meena Kumari Music : C. Ramachandra Lyrics : Rajendra Krishan Comments: (Renu) : Amidst threats of 'I could kill you for calling this Bhoola', you should be made to sit alone in a room and be subject to Sridevi's singing without any earplugs for including this in the Bhoola Bisra category!', I humbly submit my apologies. :) ============================================================================== 14. Naushad - Hoi gawah man ma more tirchi najar ka halla gori ko dekhe bina, nindiyan na aaway hamka (The language itself should be enough of a clue!) Song : Naen laD jai hai to manva ma kasak hoibe kari Singer : Mohammad Rafi Film : Ganga Jamna *ring : Dilip Kumar, Vyjayantimala Music : Naushad Lyrics : Shakeel Badayuni Comments: Pintu :BTW, I made a parody of this song, IN Bhojpuri, for a skit, with a similar scene!! chheD. kari haiN jo, to jhumakaa bhee Thunak ja-i be karee sahar kee cheejan to aisan hee sarak ja-i be karee kaahe tum itanaa bhee gussa ree khaawan lagi haiN gaaloN ko chooman ko, jhumakaa bhee naachan lagee hai kaale julphoN meN ye chandaa saa chamak jai be karee gaaNwa maa naa milat toraa jhumakaa to kaa hu-i hai sahar maaN jaakar nayaa jhumakaa ham laa da-i haiN kaan bindhawaaye naa to, kaisan ye aTak ja-i be karee ============================================================================== 15. Laxmikant-Pyarelal - Baat kehte bane kya aadhi raat ko aankh kholegi baat aadhi raat ko (Wish we had more duets of the Mangeshkar sisters.) Song : Man kyooN behka ri behka aadhi raati ko Singers : Lata Mangeshkar, Asha Bhonsle Film : Utsav *ring : Shashi Kapoor, Rekha, Amjad Khan, Neena Gupta, Shekhar Suman Music : Laxmikant - Pyaarelal Lyrics : Vasant Dev ============================================================================== 16. Manna Dey - kabhi dekho man nahin jaage peechhe peechhe sapnon ke bhaage (A movie with two lyricists.) Song : Zindagi kaisi hai paheli haay, kabhi to hasaaye, kabhi yeh rulaaye Singer : Manna Dey Film : Anand *ring : Rajesh Khanna, Amitabh Bachhan, Sumita Sanyal Music : Salil Chowdhury Lyrics : Yogesh Comments: (Renu) :Abhay complained that it was a bad subclue. :( I thought this song didn't even need a clue in the first place! ============================================================================== 17. Hemant Kumar - bahaaron par karo gussa ulajhti hain jo aankhon se havaaon par karo gussa jo takraati hain zulfon se (HK singing for HK's music) Song : Zara nazroN se keh do jee, nishaana chook na jaaye Singer : Hemant Kumar Film : Bees Saal Baad *ring : Biswajeet, Waheeda Rehman Music : Hemant Kumar Lyrics : Shakeel Badayuni ============================================================================== 18. Amitabh Bachchan - zindaa hoon main, tere liye, jeevan teraa hai meraa hai jo, sab hai teraa, ab kyaa meraa hai (The 'vazan' and 'soz' in Kishore's voice in this song.. ooof! There's another version of this song by another singer.) Song : Jidhar dekhooN teri tasveer nazar aati hai Singer : Kishore Kumar Film : Mahaan *ring : Amitabh Bachhan, Zeenat Aman, Parveen Babi, Waheeda Rehman Music : R. D. Burman Lyrics : Indivar (?) Comments: (Renu) : The second toughest clue after the SDB one. Most people hadn't heard this song ever or had heard it just once. Incidentally the other version that I mentioned in the subclue is the version sung by Amitabh himself, over the phone to Waheeda. ============================================================================== 19. Classical Raagas - prem deevaani hoon main sapnon ki raani hoon main (An rmim favorite. Raag Bhimpalaasi.) Song : NainoN me badra chhaaye, bijli si chamke haaye Singer : Lata Mangeshkar Film : Mera Saaya *ring : Sunil Dutt, Sadhana Music : Madan Mohan Lyrics : Raja Mehdi Ali Khan Comments: (Renu) : As someone once said on rmim, (was it Rajan?), 'The Bhimpalasi of all Bhimpalaasies'. ============================================================================== 20. Shanker Jaikishan - kal tere jalwe paraaye bhi honge, lekin jhalak mere khwaabon mein hogi (A relatively subdued song for the 'Junglee Janwar' although not from either of those two movies) Song : Dil ke jharoke me tujhko biThaakar, yaadon ko teri main dulhan.. Singer : Mohammad Rafi Film : Brahmachari *ring : Shammi Kapoor, Rajshri, Mumtaz Music : Shankar - Jaikishen Lyrics : Shailendra Comments: Ikram : Subdued???!!! You call banging that poor piano like that subdued!!! They probably had to replace the keyboard twice or thrice during the filming of that song. ============================================================================== 21. Guldasta - lesser acknowledged female playback singers - kyaa khaak vo jeenaa hai jo apne hi liye ho khud mitke kisi aur ko mitne se bachaa le (Geeta Dutt singing for Geeta Bali. A 'Gamble' with G's or what?) Song : Tadbeer se bigDi hui taqdeer bana le Singer : Geeta Dutt Film : Baazi *ring : Guru Dutt, Geeta Bali Music : S. D. Burman Lyrics : Sahir Ludhianvi ============================================================================== 22. Sahir - sharm roke hai idhar, shauk udhar kheenche hai kyaa khabar thi kabhi is dil ki ye haalat hogi (One of the Seven Wonders of the Medieval World) Song : PaoN chhoo lene do phooloN ko inaayat hogi Singers : Lata Mangeshkar, Mohammad Rafi Film : Taj Mahal *ring : Pradeep Kumar, Beena Rai Music : Roshan Lyrics : Sahir Ludhianvi Comments: (Renu) : Contrary to what most people thought, Abhay and I had not schemed to include this song in both of our quizzes. :) ============================================================================== 23. Talat Mehmood - jab gham ka andhera ghir aaye, samjho ke savera door nahin (Keats or Byron wrote a poem expressing similar sentiments. Can't accuse Shailendra of lifting an idea though, can we?) Song : HaiN sabse madhur woh geet jinhe Singer : Talat Mehmood Film : Patita *ring : Dev Anand, Usha Kiran, Agha Music : Shankar - Jaikishen Lyrics : Shailendra ============================================================================== 24. Lata - repeat mehkega sara gulshan hamara dil ka sahaara bahen teri (Classical MD duo who debuted with this movie) Song : Sar se sarke sarke chunariya Singers : Lata Mangeshkar, Kishore Kumar Film : Silsila *ring : Amitabh Bachhan, Shashi Kapoor, Jaya Bhaduri, Rekha, Sanjeev Kumar Music : Shiv - Hari Lyrics : Javed Akhtar Comments: (Renu) : Everyone guessed the MDs to be Shiv-Hari. But mixed up the song with 'dekha ek khwab to yeh silsile hue' ============================================================================== Now for the winners! *trumpet blasts and other stuff to be inserted here* An uncanny coincidence that the 10th entry i received, got 10 points, the 15th got 15 points and ditto with the 20th too. :) There were 8 teams tied at the 5th position - 1. Pavan Kumar Desikan + U.V. Ravindra - 20/24 2. Samir Ayachi - 20/24 3. Ramki Krishnan + Madhav Rao - 20/24 4. Renu Sah + Sujata Swaminathan - 20/24 5. Chetan Vinchhi - 20/24 6. Shoba & Madan Annavarjula - 20/24 7. Mala Acharya - 20/24 8. Vandana & Mahesh Chaubal - 20/24 There were 4 teams tied at the 4th position - 1. Harmesh Kaur & Surjit Singh - 21/24 2. Shailesh Deshpande - 21/24 3. Prashant Kulkarni - 21/24 4. Srinivasan - 21/24 There were 2 teams tied at the 3rd position - 1. Venkat Mantri + Rajesh Kunjithaya - 22/24 2. Ajit Dandekar + Roopa Dhawan - 22/24 There were 5 teams tied at the 2nd position - 1. Avanidhar Subrahmanyam - 23/24 2. Manish Shah + Sadanand Sahasrabudhe - 23/24 3. Kalyan Kolachala + Atul - 23/24 4. Neeraj Deshmukh + Swapna Gokhale + Indrani - 23/24 5. Ashish Bokil - 23/24 ***** And the winners of RJGK-25 are ***** (and we have 5 teams here!) 1. Sridhar Natrajan + Manisha Nigam + Arun Verma - 24/24 2. Prince Kohli + Neeraj Malhotra - 24/24 3. Namrata & Harish Patil with Sharad Chandarana - 24/24 4. Preetham Gopalaswamy + Sami Mohammed - 24/24 5. Balaji & Malini - 24/24 CONGRATULATIONS to all the winners! And a BIG THANK YOU to all of you for making this quiz such a big success! Once again ALL the winning teams are joint entries, and only two teams at 2nd place are solo entries. Is Pintu going to complain again? :) Congrats and thanks once again and looking forward to RJGK-50! :) Renu.